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First 2012 Presidential Debate: Open Forum

Posted by Larry Doyle on October 4, 2012 6:35 AM |

With the 2012 campaign entering the home stretch and the first Presidential debate now in the record books, I would welcome hearing from readers what they think at this critical juncture in our nation’s history.

Did last night’s debate change your opinion of either Republican nominee Mitt Romney or President Barack Obama?

Did you learn anything new last evening? Are there issues you would like to see further explored? How about the manner in which the respective campaigns have been managed and/or covered relative to what we saw displayed last evening?

The floor is wide open. I hope supporters of both candidates may offer opinions. Additionally, I would welcome hearing from voters who remain undecided.

What do readers think? Please do not be bashful.

LD

  • peter shimkus

    Is it me, or did Mitt have a smile like Mona Lisa ?

  • Jack

    Is it me or is Mitt Romney simply more intelligent than the President?

    Strikes me that without the cover of a compliant media and the assistance of a teleprompter, BO was exposed as not all that sharp. How does BO literally not show up on that stage? Comparisons to the empty chair and empty suit will resonate.

  • Jim

    I think someone forgot to remind Obama that the debate was THIS Wednesday.

    • http://www.iqadvisor.com TARbot

      Just one more memorable quip launched by that one debate.

      For one, I wasn’t surprised at all by the debate. Romney is a polished individual, despite reports to the contrary. And since President Obama blows everything else off, why should have anyone expected him to knuckle down for a debate?

      Obama just met the honey badger.

  • Bill

    Wondering who that other man was on the stage with Mitt Romney last evening? Who is Barack Obama?

    Perhaps we should start by asking who is Frank Marshall Davis?

    Frank Marshall Davis, Obama’s mentor in Hawaii during his critical teen years, was a member of the Communist Party, as his FBI files revealed. William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist and a founder of The Weather Underground, was closely associated with Obama in Chicago. Kincaid has been a leader in bringing this information to light.

    “The media will not tell you about these, but these, together, constitute the 600 pages of an FBI file on somebody named Frank Marshall Davis,” Kincaid told the audience. “We had gotten these documents, this file, over four years ago.

    Frank Marshall Davis was Barack Obama’s mentor—perhaps more than that—in Hawaii during his crucial growing-up years, right before he went off to college, for about seven years of his life. This file—we got this from the FBI—showed that this individual, Frank Marshall Davis, had been under FBI surveillance for nineteen years.

    He was a suspected Soviet agent. He was so important that the FBI said he could be detained in the event of a national emergency.”

  • Ed

    BO seemed unconfident and unsure about himself and about the intricacies of his policy. One thing I noticed is that people endlessly “tweeted” that BO was addressing the nation while Mitt was addressing Obama. This was the first presidential debate. You are meant to address your opponent and challenge their positions. Campaigning is when you address the nation and Mitt did plenty of that. While he did have blunders throughout various speeches, they were completely over-played by the media and I think his true colors showed at the debate. He not only was in complete command of his own plans but he seemed to know more about BO’s presidency and policies than BO did himself. Mitt went into specifics while BO went in circles droning on and repeating false information. Mitt’s closing speech wasn’t exactly what I had expected from him but I think it is needless to say that he dominated the President in this first debate.

  • Andrew

    I think the debate can speak for itself.
    What amused me was the post debate punditry. I surfed among Fox, CNN and MSNBC for the predictable points of view. Maddow and Matthews were apoplectic about Obama’s performance. My heart was warmed. Cavuto had a more realistic take, awarding the night to Romney. Wolf Blitzer was dismayed.

    My own take was that Romney came a long way last night. I am interested to see if the polls change in the next few days.

    The VP debate will be one to watch.

  • Ken

    Obama is often assumed to be an excellent communicator, intelligent and quick witted. Last night, after he used his talking points, the reply to Romney’s rebuttal was flat, often just repeating the talking points. I wonder if Obama’s oratory skill is merely reciting someone else’s ideas, a puppet of someone else’s creation. And when he goes off script, there’s not much there. In contrast, Romney was fluent on a wide range of topics and sparred effortlessly. Very surprised by the reversal of widely help perceptions of both.

  • crusader

    Mitt exposed BHO as an empty suit flailing ineptly without a teleprompter to guide him.

  • fred

    I have been facinated by public opinion ever since the OJ trial. How can different people, exposed to the same presentation of facts, have such differing opionions?

    Clearly Romney was better prepared and had a better debate presence, probably all that practice he got in the primaries.

    Of course, the only opionion that matters is the undecided voters, are they more or less likely to vote Obama or Romney after the debate?

  • BC

    A MUST SEE photo not widely disseminated from last night’s debate.

  • Sons of Vaval

    Al Gore seems to have uncovered the reason why Obama struggled last night: http://www.newser.com/story/155250/gore-blames-obamas-whiff-on-altitude.html

    Put this in the category of: “You Can’t Make This Stuff Up”

  • rebu_sts

    It is not what was done during the debate, or who said or how, but our current President(Obama) has worked on plans that the American People has embraced before! It is stated his plans are not working! If I am wrong than I guest I look at more than just him as part of this countries Political leaders. He is the head, but the creation was made to establish other as a support to him as well. He can be overriden on decision everyday or haven’t you gentlemen and ladies noticed that. I do not make it a habit to voice my opinion on such sites, but in four years I have seen this President been dis-respect like no other in my life time. He has not gotten the support that were enjoy by earlier leaders (other than Jimmy Carter), but he keeps trying. I donot know if Mitt will be better, but he will get better support form Congress and Business on most of the programs he or they want.

  • rjr

    last night’s debate first showed what joke US political debates are and confirmation that Mitt is just a plain liar. He will tell you anything you want to heardependin gon the audience. Obama knows he has the Black vote and the majority of Hispanic and female vote. He may have been advised to tone done and not give a “angry Black guy” look to not affend all the white , male redneck vote…GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!

  • James

    Obama lied to us about transparency, bi-partisan priorities, criminal procecution, national security, bringing America together, balancing the budget and so on & on. He has accomplished the opposite.

    He won’t lie to us again. I’m convinced he is ill prepared, inexpieranced, unfit and a disgrace not to mention a national embarassement. W/o his teleprompter he was lost.

    He can soon sit down as his solo will soon be over….I hope.

  • Eddie

    Correct me if i’m wrong but in the first half hour on the topic of employment did either candidate say the government itself is the biggest killer of jobs? I didn’t hear that.

    I think my candidate Ron Paul or Gary Johnson would have said so. Employment Is trampled by government, no?

    They govern young age, old age, gender, race, qualifications, experience, what comes out of your paycheck, what employers have to pay, exclude from your check, tax, insurance, health care, retirement ins, dues for unions.

    What you have to do with your income with the irs, what your
    Employer has to do about it too. This is all above
    And beyond what the employer and the employee
    Need to agree on, let alone what happens to the product or service produced by the employer and is it worth having an employer make a product at all?

    This talk of cutting taxes or lower the rate to me evades the point and just smells like the next scheme is coming.

  • BigMamaTEA

    Mittens was not my 1st,2nd, or 3rd choice; but we have what we have til we can clean up BOTH parties, and put PRINCIPLE over Parties! Back to the Constitution. Period. It is the instruction book. The majority of what is done at the Federal level is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

  • CB

    Last night’s debate made me realize Americans have been “hood-winked” as we have an idiot for a President and, somehow Mitt Romney has been kept hidden from us until last night.

    I was for Mitt Romney and now I’m thrilled to be for Mitt Romney. I believe Mitt Romney knows how to restore America.

  • Chris

    I didn’t hear any specifics on the HOW, from Mr. Romney. The President spelled out in more detail, of how he is handling the issues. The Romney quote I most remember was his comment that plans start with a vision. Sounded like his plan was going to be a work in progress once he took office. His debate sounded more like he was trying to buy votes with promises everyone here knows are impossible. I can’t see the math for his claim that increasing the employment rate, and using the taxes from those new additional workers could possibly pay for a defence buildup and tax rate cuts.

    Also how many noted Mr. Romney is not the anti socialist he claims to be. He seemed ok with 6 Billion in subsidies to the oil companies. So not a question of subsidies, just who gets them.

    Romney is just another empty suit.

    • Tim Favero

      Chris, there are no oil subsidies. The president wants everyone to believe that there are oil subsidies. The fact of the matter is there are multiple industries who are taking advantage of the Section 199 tax provision. Not just oil companies. The president is being disingenuous and when he gets people like you to believe him, he has won his argument.

      Take a look at this link from Exxon Mobil:

      http://exxonmobil.co/OHiMKb

      Below is part of that article: “The simple fact is that neither ExxonMobil nor the U.S. oil and gas industry as a whole receives subsidies.

      What the president refers to as subsidies for companies like ExxonMobil are actually legitimate tax provisions that apply to many organizations and many industries across the board.

      The best example of so-called industry subsidies – and the one that critics usually cite first – is the manufacturing income deduction under section 199 of the tax code.

      This is no subsidy at all; it’s a deduction available to virtually every American manufacturer – whether you refine oil into gasoline or make cars or toasters or microprocessors or even if you produce Hollywood movies. In fact, the scope of this deduction is actually less for oil and gas producers than for other manufacturers.

      That alone gives lie to the notion it is a special benefit extended to the oil and gas industry by politically connected friends in Washington. And to entirely bar the largest oil companies from taking advantage of the 199 deduction available to other manufacturers amounts to nakedly punitive political punishment.”

    • Roz

      Romney did look good in the debate and if winning the vote of the American people was based on having great eye appeal I would be the next leader of the free world.

      Mr. Romney spoke well but he said nothing. He gave me the feeling that his plan was to have no plan. I don’t care about looks, I don’t care about race, or gender, instead I care about my country and her people. I even care about the 47% because they are also Americans, and if Mr. Romney wants to win this election than he needs to spell-out his plan and give us all an opportunity to make an informed decision. I am tired of the of the failures of our elected officals, and I am disappointed in how their lack of responsible action and unscruplous behavior has the nation leading in a race to the bottom of the global standing.

      I know where we have been, I know where we are, and if Romney wants my vote he needs to explain where he wants to lead us and how he intends to get us there.

  • Chris

    As a follow up.. I think the hype that Romney did so well was so the press has fodder to play up a close race. To hell with the polls, someone in Vegas must have a line on the election.. just use that.

  • John

    I am a conservative. I don’t vote Republican as I believe the Democrats are Communist and the Republicans are Socialists.

    I am probably going to vote for Romney as I want HIM defeated and the R’s are the way to do it. I wont vote for other R’s on the ballot for the above reason even though Ted Cruz is running for the senate.

    This will be the first time I’ve voted AGAINST the other guy as I’m not for Romney by and of himself.

    THATS ALL. I like your column. Best regards.

  • Mary

    Romney seemed more rested, more alert and mentally acute. Obama looked exhausted and foggy.

    This does not change the fundamentals I consider when supporting Obama (women’s rights–something attacked all over the world and needing America for inspiration and example; cooler headed and less inclination than Romney indicates to send our troops abroad to police the mid-east hot spots and thus save us a lot of lives and treasure needed at home desperately; protection and support for college students’ grant monies; a warmer more empathetic personality with a personal experience of poverty and the trials of single parenthood—i.e having respect for the 47% who are needing help and could possibly get their lives turned around with more education and a skilled job; less belligerent attitude toward China—careful of what he says that could upset our attempts to keep China and US relations chilled out; better sense of humor, more balanced persona–

    Romney seems shallow and would not represent us as well around the world (example foot in the mouth in UK, this summer.)

  • Annie

    I am a woman, at least to Republicans. I’m voting for Romney and Ryan as I have been thoroughly bashed and abused by the left. Women’s rights outside of abortion issues do not matter to the left. The left are like the woman’s sewing union leader who was male saying, “But they know who is the boss”.

    I have a son with a disability and was treated like I was some kind of pariah by two women from NOW, because I didn’t choose an abortion, when I knew it was possible that he might have a disability. Some choice! The difference is vast between those viewing their children as blessings and those viewing their children as burdens.

    The left is making it fashionable for everyone to covet what everyone else has…. It’s almost being made out to be a virtue!

    And Obama, I did build that small business that I ran for 30 years. Yes, I felt blessed to live in the US where that was once possible. I raised two of my children as a single mother for several years. I had insurance for my children but not for myself. Now I would either be forced on the dole or fined if I didn’t have that insurance. I would not be able to squeak by those lean years now to build a business.

    Obama should have stayed the community organizer that he is, I’m really tired of him pointing his finger and lecturing me and “rubbing raw the sores of discontent” that he does so well.

    His foreign policy is a shambles and we will have to spend more money and blood undoing his great foibles. He really has to go.

  • paul

    OB has finally been exposed as a fraud. Affirmative action and diversity can only get you to the dance they can’t make you a good dancer.

    In the absence of a qualification test, the debate format is the only opportunity undecided voters have to judge a candidates actual ability.

    Can’t wait for foreign policy.

    • linda

      PRESS RELEASE. Nobelprize.org

      The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009

      The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

      Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama’s initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

      Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population.

      For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world’s leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama’s appeal that “Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges.”

      Oslo, October 9, 2009

  • Annie

    Obama wrote two books, memoirs, more or less, before he had ever really accomplished anything substantial. He had his opponents disqualified to get into his first elected office. He was, in the whole scheme of things a short term Senator. After one year of his Presidency, again before he had actually accomplished anything substantial, he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

    So, he gave some people hope via his speech writers.

    That doesn’t change the fact that al qaeda is on the rise, he has tied the hands of our military, including those of our stealth fighting forces, who are now required to announce their arrival with bull horns, and without the numbers needed to keep our own fighting men’s blood from spilling. His apologies to the radical elements in Africa, Asia and the Middle East have only emboldened them.

    He has been the most divisive President in our history. Yes others in the world may love him and go right on with their unfounded “hope”, but that doesn’t make him a good President, nor does it mean that their has been any substantive measure of any “peace”.






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