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Why Doesn’t the Market Move?

Posted by Larry Doyle on January 4th, 2010 2:55 PM |

Have you ever wondered why the market often times makes a very early move one way or the other then just seems to sit all day? Take today, for instance. The market moved solidly higher on the open, but has sat at up 160 points all day. Why? Let’s look at a 5 minute graph of today’s price movement for the Dow Jones Industrial Average:


The market has traded in a 10 to 15 point range for the better part of the last 4 hours. Why isn’t it moving? A lack of overall trading volume and accompanying conviction on the part of many investors. With fewer market participants involved, volatility diminishes, and the market sits.

Is this good, bad, right, wrong? It’s none of the above. This is merely the market.

All other things being equal, it is healthier for a market to trade up and down on heavier volume as that indicates a stronger conviction and develops a stronger foundation. One may agree or disagree with the price action of a market.  That said, a market will do whatever it may want. That is, “the market is the market.”


“Nobody Has Ever Seen This Market”

Posted by Larry Doyle on November 12th, 2009 8:22 AM |

“I’ve seen this market before” is a very commonly used phrase by Wall Street professionals to compare and contrast different periods.

For example, when the Treasury yield curve is steepening or flattening, many market pros will project what will happen in different segments of the market based on discounting cash flows under the steepening or flattening scenario. Similarly, when credit spreads are in a widening or tightening trend, market pros will project how higher or lower rated investments will typically behave.

These projections are all based upon prior experience. The pros are utilizing a combination of market fundamentals along with investor sentiment to make forecasts. They will overlay their current forecasts against similar trends during prior cycles. Not that markets are ever perfectly symmetrical, but ‘having seen a market before’ is often a strong indicator of current and future price action.

Against this backdrop and given the challenging nature of the current market price action, I would challenge any market analyst or pundit who would utilize a similar approach today.

The simple fact is, ‘nobody has ever seen this market before.’ Why? Because this market has never transpired previously. Certainly, we have seen bull markets. We have seen low interest rate markets. We have seen accomodative Fed policy. We have seen bubbles. All that said, we have never seen a market in which global cross currents combined with ongoing fiscal stimulus have impacted markets to this extent.

In fact, I think one could make the case that the market is doing better as large parts of our domestic economy and the global economy are actually doing worse. While traditional schools of thought would view that correlation as perverse, the economic strains are compelling global governments to keep stimulus programs in place.

What is the result? A rallying market with increasing potential that the market develops into a blowoff. The irrationally positive nature of a blowoff is akin to a wholesale dumping of securities in a selloff.

Keep your head and stick to disciplined investing. Respect the price action, but do not get overly enamored with those analysts telling you what will happen . . . because ‘nobody has ever seen this market.’


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